PCI cards

I think it's time there's an updated ''Good PCI GPUs'' thread. I can't find a damn thing, and I'm sure there are other people still stuck on a PCI-only motherboard. I want to upgrade from my Radeon x1600 Pro without upping my motherboard, because I should be getting a high-end laptop soon through my school. It's a veeeery dated unit (2+ years, a lot in the world of tech), sporting quite a bit of wear/tear from various clocking experiments and whatnot, and now doesn't run near as well as it used to. So basically, hit me up with a list of what's out there.To kick it off, I see that NVIDIA is releasing the GeForce 8400 PCI soon, which I'm guessing is pretty good, but I'm not sure how the specs match up to actual performance. PCI cards
wait, your school would proabably give you something with intel gma and alland i thought nvidia stopped the 8*** series??PCI cards
They probably have, which is why they spent a bit of time downgrading to PCI to capitalize on it again.



I'm not sure where you're going with the first part of your post, either. It better be fecking nice, I'm going for video game design.
Well, ''Good'', ''PCI'', and ''Video'' are oxymorons.... PCI will probably even bottleneck in non-gaming situations.
Don't be a tech-snob, just try to consider the question.
PCI dates back to the 486, its not being a snob. It outdated, ancient technology. You should just get a new motherboard. Even the cheapest, bottom of the barrel one is going to be better than anything PCI you put in your currrent one.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANYWAY, how about some help?
why stop at pci? lets get a good ISA gpu thread going.i find agp systems sitting beside the dumpster on a regulat basis, you could even get a old pci-e mobo/cpu at the computer recycle center for $30 or $40
[QUOTE=''harrumphy'']AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANYWAY, how about some help?[/QUOTE] Your not gonna find it because you've already got one the best ones.
So your school gives all the pupils a high end laptop or just you...?That sounds v. good to me..... Think i will go back to school, your one!
[QUOTE=''good shool with PCI card'']To kick it off, I see that NVIDIA is releasing the GeForce 8400 PCI soon, which I'm guessing is pretty good, but I'm not sure how the specs match up to actual performance.[/QUOTE]Im not to sure about it being an upgrade from the X1600, then theese coments you already got are correct, the PCI is to slow with to little bandwidth, you will se no performance at all, if your card can use Windows fine leave it be, save for a new build, this will not get you thru any new games anyway. ''(2+ years, a lot in the world of tech)'' -Not really but about 5+ years ago we had PCI.(PCI was started 1993)
Are you sure you only have pci? I have never heard of an x1600pro pci version.
Yes, my school will be giving me a fairly high-end laptop. I'm not going to a university or state school, I'll be going to either an art college for film and design or a tech college for video game design. Both of which require fairly good GPU's.



About the GeForce 8400, I don't mind spending 130 bucks for a card that would be slightly better than mine if they were both new, especially since mine has been worn out and been HOT AS HELL (almost reached 95C on it once) and doesn't work as well as it should anymore. Compared to my current performance, the 8400 will likely be an excellent upgrade.



Yes, I'm sure I've only got PCI inputs, I've checked and re-checked, because I've been going through the market looking for better since I got mine. The x1600 is surely available as PCI, as is the x1300 (which was almost 300 bucks at the time, so I went with the x1600).
Oh yeah, also... The Radeon HD2400 is running a single 800mHz, as the GeForce is on a dual at 400mHz each... I've heard that dual is better for gaming, even if it doesn't technically have any more power, but why?
[QUOTE=''harrumphy'']Yes, my school will be giving me a fairly high-end laptop. I'm not going to a university or state school, I'll be going to either an art college for film and design or a tech college for video game design. Both of which require fairly good GPU's. About the GeForce 8400, I don't mind spending 130 bucks for a card that would be slightly better than mine if they were both new, especially since mine has been worn out and been HOT AS HELL (almost reached 95C on it once) and doesn't work as well as it should anymore. Compared to my current performance, the 8400 will likely be an excellent upgrade. Yes, I'm sure I've only got PCI inputs, I've checked and re-checked, because I've been going through the market looking for better since I got mine. The x1600 is surely available as PCI, as is the x1300 (which was almost 300 bucks at the time, so I went with the x1600).[/QUOTE] There is no such thing as a PCI x1600... check again. Download CPU-Z and tell us what it says there.EDIT: Wait a second, you have a x1600 or is that the card that is coming with the laptop? You can't upgrade laptop's GPU's, and if it's your desktop that has a x1600, it's surely PCI-E.
I have a matge with a PCI only mobo and I want him to play HL2, so I need to get a PCI card in the UK that can handle it!
[QUOTE=''harrumphy'']Oh yeah, also... The Radeon HD2400 is running a single 800mHz, as the GeForce is on a dual at 400mHz each... I've heard that dual is better for gaming, even if it doesn't technically have any more power, but why?[/QUOTE]the perform about the same but the 2400 is alot cheaper. But i believe the very best pci only is the radeon 3450
I promise you, I've still got the box. It says ''Radeon x1600 Pro'' on the front, and in a little blue triangle in the corner says ''PCI slot''. That's the card I've had for the last two and a half years.



And the 2400 is actually only 6 bucks cheaper according to Best Buy. I'll check on the radeon 3450, though.
the radeon 3450 performs around the same as a nidia 8600gt, at least for pci-e versions
[QUOTE=''harrumphy'']I promise you, I've still got the box. It says ''Radeon x1600 Pro'' on the front, and in a little blue triangle in the corner says ''PCI slot''. That's the card I've had for the last two and a half years. And the 2400 is actually only 6 bucks cheaper according to Best Buy. I'll check on the radeon 3450, though.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the x1600 is alivalable in PCI but you migth still have an PCIe or AGP slot on your motherboard anyway.Both AGP and PCIE would be a much better option, you can download cpu-z to have faq about your motherboard and witch slots you have alivalable for GPU usage.For $130 you can have a fairly good performance out of your gpu.Another option is to spend a litlle on a motherboard and the rest on a GPU, $130 should be enough for a decent upgrade from a motherboard witch just have PCI slots for graphic interface.